Bow Wow vs B-Scott: HipHop homophobia
- Black Men being Hard together
In mid-April 2009, Little Bow Wow told a “funny story”, which was over a live web-chat, about not wanting to get his haircut by a barber that he assumed was gay. His comments sparked some controversy among gay media when his remarks were leaked. One such critique came from video-blogger BScott who is this self-proclaimed “gay as hell” “pretty man.” In his original post, BScott, took Bow Wow to task over his homophobia and alleged closet status (funny as hell in a problematic way).
Afterwards and not in direct response to BScott, Bow Wow posted a video response to explain that his words were misinterpreted or taken out of context. When you watch the video, Bow Wow struggles with saying the word gay and he set-ups, hopefully not intentionally, this imagined split between being gay and being a man. He says: “I’m a man. I’m a man. I love women to death.” Then he goes on to acknowledge that in the business he works in “it’s a lot of gays.” He elaborates that he works “with them and see ‘em all the time.” He goes on to say, “I don’t dislike gay people. You know what I sayin’. Come on like, what I look like…I just don’t want no other man touching me.” Bow Wow wants the audience to believe that his concern is not because he assumes the barber is gay, but that the barber is a man, which as he said “I don’t want no other man touching me.”
Yet in the above picture, Bow-Wow is okay standing half naked with half naked soul-ja boy slightly behind and to side of his body (not to mention soul-ja boy’s extended arm that brushes/rests across/around Bow Wow’s shoulder). I am not suggesting that there is a homosexual relationship in the picture, but I am suggesting that Bow Wow is okay with certain other men touching him and his half-naked person. If this is true, then it would mean that in the case of the barber it was not about the barber being a man, but it was about Bow Wow’s assumption regarding the barber’s sexuality, which made Bow Wow decline the haircut.
In the second video response, BScott informs little Bow Wow (and others) that they need to judge people on the merit of their “character” and “services.” He rightfully faults Hip Hop for significantly contributing to the current culture in which it is okay to discriminate against gays. BScott expresses a deep concern about the rampant homophobia in every community particularly the HIP-HOP, and Black ones. BScott expresses this noticeable prevalent mentality in black and Hip Hop communities “That it is okay to call a gay guy a faggot; it’s okay to discriminate against a gay guy because he’s gay; it’s okay to be uncomfortable; it’s okay to be like oh-yo son that’s gay or yo-yeah you’re a faggot – as if it is something bad.” BScott pinpoints a very troubling reality about hip-hop and black communities’ impact on Black LGBT people’s life chances as valued members of the black community. Starting at minute 6:04, he talks about the impact of hateful words and about the two child suicides, which happened at different schools, because of other children picking-on, ostracizing and marginalizing these two male children.
you do a good job of re-hashing a beef–between two people i don’t pay much attention to–that i hadn’t heard about. but i was wondering if you could say more about 1. why you find this particular instance of folks discussing the contradictory, homosocial and -erotic nature of hip-hip remarkable; 2. why this issue–that happened in the spring–is still fresh on the brink of july, esp. b/c i think a lot of folks might be surprised that bow wow is still around and releasing music, apparently; and 3. what you have to say about the matter.
thanks!
you do a good job of re-hashing a beef–between two people i don’t pay much attention to–that i hadn’t heard about. but i was wondering if you could say more about 1. why you find this particular instance of folks discussing the contradictory, homosocial and -erotic nature of hip-hip remarkable; 2. why this issue–that happened in the spring–is still fresh on the brink of july, esp. b/c i think a lot of folks might be surprised that bow wow is still around and releasing music, apparently; and 3. what you have to say about the matter.
thanks!
Hi Summer,
Thanks for the response. I will address them in the order that you mentioned:
1) First B-Scott has a loyal fan base of 60000 young black youth 13-18, mostly women and BLACK LGBT youth. My goal (and the project aim as I understood it) was to engaged youth. Secondly, Bow-Wow is someone who is in the age category, but you are right he is “not hot,” but it is because he is the most recent famous person who thoroughly put his views out there. I would suggest that you look at the responses on the link of B-Scott pages and become familar with his fan base. B-Scott is very relevant and has been a guest speaker at many Prides and particularly in Miami, New York and has spoken at Yale.
2) I find this to be timely because it opens the door to a larger conversation about homophobia. Moreover, this particular situation is unique in so far as the contrast it provides between two black men and their understanding and perspective on masculinity and sexuality.
3) In terms of what I have to say, I said how I felt about it in using the story. I will, however, to make it more clear say that I echo B-Scott’s opinion. I hope that helps.
Hi Summer,
Thanks for the response. I will address them in the order that you mentioned:
1) First B-Scott has a loyal fan base of 60000 young black youth 13-18, mostly women and BLACK LGBT youth. My goal (and the project aim as I understood it) was to engaged youth. Secondly, Bow-Wow is someone who is in the age category, but you are right he is “not hot,” but it is because he is the most recent famous person who thoroughly put his views out there. I would suggest that you look at the responses on the link of B-Scott pages and become familar with his fan base. B-Scott is very relevant and has been a guest speaker at many Prides and particularly in Miami, New York and has spoken at Yale.
2) I find this to be timely because it opens the door to a larger conversation about homophobia. Moreover, this particular situation is unique in so far as the contrast it provides between two black men and their understanding and perspective on masculinity and sexuality.
3) In terms of what I have to say, I said how I felt about it in using the story. I will, however, to make it more clear say that I echo B-Scott’s opinion. I hope that helps.
great post. it’d be interesting if you engaged other conversations around the simultaneous homophobic/homo-erotic nature of hip-hop. it seems like a link to the boondocks episode that discussed this exact same thing would be perfect here.
great post. it’d be interesting if you engaged other conversations around the simultaneous homophobic/homo-erotic nature of hip-hop. it seems like a link to the boondocks episode that discussed this exact same thing would be perfect here.
I love the fact that you watch B-Scott!!!! I saw her (or his, im still not sure which gender b.scott prefers to be called) initial reaction to lil-bow-wow’s (and I include the “lil” on purpose) statements. This thug homophobic mentality is really getting old. Causing young masculine closeted males across the country to not be comfortable enough to tell anyone who they really are. It is sad- and will continue to be sad until more people start to use the media to call people on their actions (like B. Scott did with lil-bow-wow)
I love the fact that you watch B-Scott!!!! I saw her (or his, im still not sure which gender b.scott prefers to be called) initial reaction to lil-bow-wow’s (and I include the “lil” on purpose) statements. This thug homophobic mentality is really getting old. Causing young masculine closeted males across the country to not be comfortable enough to tell anyone who they really are. It is sad- and will continue to be sad until more people start to use the media to call people on their actions (like B. Scott did with lil-bow-wow)
Jonathan,
BScott likes to be referred to as a man better yet a pretty man. I love BScott. I have watched him religiously for the last two years. My favorite cyber-sode was when he had the altercation with his Ethiopian neighbors….hahahahahah too funny!!!
Jonathan,
BScott likes to be referred to as a man better yet a pretty man. I love BScott. I have watched him religiously for the last two years. My favorite cyber-sode was when he had the altercation with his Ethiopian neighbors….hahahahahah too funny!!!
Thanks alexm….
I appreciate your kind words and your idea about the boondocks. I am not too familar with that show, can you tell me more about it?
Thanks alexm….
I appreciate your kind words and your idea about the boondocks. I am not too familar with that show, can you tell me more about it?