Single Black woman says, "I ain’t the Problem, Nightline, Black Men Are!"
So, that we are crystal clear I do not run behind black men. I do not beg them to spend time with me. I am not desperate for their attention, money, or third arm. I am so tired of Nightline, CNN, ABC, and yes the great matriarch himself, Tyler Perry, telling me that I am the problem. There is a political project afoot to make black women feel they are woefully inadequate. And to this, I say bah hum bug.
– April 24, 2010 Facebook’s Status, Fallon
Just in case you’re wondering, yes, I started my blog with a status update I wrote last week when Nightline aired its show, Face-Off: Why Can’t a Successful Black Woman Find a Man? The Facebook status update conveys my sentiments about this latest cycle of blaming black women for the woes of the black man, the woes of the black community, and the woes of the economy. Yes, if only I would become barefoot and pregnant unemployed and desperate for Big Daddy’s benevolent protection then I would be married [cue the Disney’s music] and the mice with their little mice hands would make my white wedding dress . . . living happily ever after . . . yes, if only I could be that type of woman again. Yes, I use to be a version of her (i.e. wanting to marry the senator instead of being the senator syndrome) when I was searching for my voice.
But, I ain’t her now and I don’t know too many black women who are. If you want a more scholarly understanding of this issue I suggest you read Melissa Harris Lacewell’s Nightline asks why black women can’t get a man or Farai Chideya How Does It Feel to Be a Black, Female, Single Problem because my blog is going to be a rant about how I think black men are the problems. Yes, I said they are the PROBLEMS. Okay, not the pen-ultimate problem, but definitely the problem when it comes to how they use their hetero-male privilege in romantic relationships with black women in particular black women like me who are not willing to put up with their shit cow dung.
I know this makes me a bad race woman and perhaps even a bad feminist, but it’s the truth. And my grandmother in her southern tone says, “Tell the truth and shame devil” and so I’ve decided today to shame that Devil all the da way back to hell because black men are indeed the reason why I am a happy single black hetero-woman. And my happiness has nothing to do with not being able to find one because my godmother says and it’s true “men are like buses they come every 15 minutes and they will screw anything with a hole.”
Of course, screwing does not lead to a lifelong commitment with the brother, but the point is that if we wanted to find one we could. So, perhaps our singleness, my singleness, is in response to not wanting to put up with hetero black male privilege. I don’t believe in submission. I do not believe in making myself small so that you can feel good about your hetero-masculinity. And it has been my experience that men want black women who will cater to them, who will shut up sometimes, who will stay at home and raise the children (even though the fool will admit he would not want to stay at home), who will endure stress, abuse, violence, and sacrifice in the name of commitment. And I say once again, I ain’t her.
Yep, I’m going to beat this drum . . . black men are the problems. Perhaps, someone who has a glimmer of common sense Hill Harper, Steve Harvey, or Kevin Powell should write a how-to-book with colorful pictures teaching black men how to become unconventional/atypical black men . . . the kind of man who allows a black woman to be herself . . . the kind man who does not mentally masturbate with black feminist heterosexual women, but who wants a lifetime of memories with her (yep, that’s my personal gripe). . . the kind of black man who believes “iron sharpens iron, she will make a better black man out of me” . . . the kind of man who will endure many years of psycho therapy to understand his emotions so that he can be an emotionally available father and husband . . . the kind of man who is proud to say I am the husband of such and such using her maiden name . . . the kind of man who will smile and at times grin at her witticism/arguments deeply respecting her thoughts . . . I could go on forever listing how black men can begin to challenge their male privilege, but, hey, Random House is not ain’t giving me no book deal they are too busy running behind the Steve Harvey’s and Tyler Perry’s of the world because clearly they speak for black women [pure sarcasm].
Of course, as a good race woman, I have to say that this blog is not an indictment against black men. I know being a black man is hard [cue the homeless black man on the corner playing the violin]. I get it and from birth have gotten it. However, the intention of this blog is about black men and Nightline understanding why some black women “choose” to be single because we are not willing to acquiesce to the cow dung—black male privilege. We are not willing to settle for black men who are not emotionally available irrespective if he wears a “blue collar,” a “white collar,” or a “green job collar.”
Honestly, I’m sick and tired of being the problem. I am tired of being the scapegoat for why we have double digit unemployment in black communities. Yes, some people believe if black women would stop working then black men could take their jobs and all the social problems in the black community will be remedied. Yeah, right. And I am tired of being berated by the news media and blamed for the demoralization of our communities when we all know capitalism, racism, sexism, class, poverty, heteronormativity, and black male privilege are all to blame for the many issues we face in our communities.
Once again, I believe there is a political project afoot to make black women to feel woefully inadequate because they lack black hetero-male romantic partnership/marriage. And I think part of the political project is to cloak the dysfunctionality of capitalism and to warn other groups of women what will happen if they stray too far from appropriate feminine behaviors and identities—you will be blamed for the toxic social issues of your community and will be subjected to public ridicule on Nightline and other mainstream news shows—so be a good little girl . . . a “well behaved” black girl.
Yes, I said and will continue to say, Black men are part of the Problem and why I “choose” to be single.
Can I get a sistah to testify?
Tell it girl Tell it!!!! We have got to unravel how patriarchy is the problem and not the solution to what’s happening in the black community. I applaud your effort to expand the conversation beyond what black women are “doing wrong” to incorporate the ways in which patriarchal black masculinity has sold black men on the idea that they can treat black women however they see fit and black women are supposed to take it. Fierce!!
Tell it girl Tell it!!!! We have got to unravel how patriarchy is the problem and not the solution to what’s happening in the black community. I applaud your effort to expand the conversation beyond what black women are “doing wrong” to incorporate the ways in which patriarchal black masculinity has sold black men on the idea that they can treat black women however they see fit and black women are supposed to take it. Fierce!!
@MB
Thanks . . . I am just sick of it. I sick of people like Steve Harvey and Tyler Perry who can make millions telling black women how we need to change our behaviors to get a man.
@MB
Thanks . . . I am just sick of it. I sick of people like Steve Harvey and Tyler Perry who can make millions telling black women how we need to change our behaviors to get a man.
wow, what a relief to see somebody break through all this crap. If vh1 has another show with a black woman looking for a man, I am going to puke!
wow, what a relief to see somebody break through all this crap. If vh1 has another show with a black woman looking for a man, I am going to puke!
@Andrea,
I hear u! So, I take it you did not like Let’s Talk About Pep? lol
@Andrea,
I hear u! So, I take it you did not like Let’s Talk About Pep? lol
I LOOOOOOOOOOVE You Fallon! Preach on sis!
I LOOOOOOOOOOVE You Fallon! Preach on sis!
@Angela,
You’re welcome sis, I do understand believe me!
@Angela,
You’re welcome sis, I do understand believe me!
Sounds like somebody missed the entire premise of the Nightline show (if you dig deep down there may be one in there somewhere? Maybe? Well probably not). But I don’t think it was geared towards women who aren’t trying to find a man. Its for women who are actively looking for a man, but can’t find one.
Also like to note, I don’t think men respect Steve Harvey as a relationship expert. But women do. They bought his book. Including my own family (to my objection). If you have a problem with it, maybe you should direct your comments towards those women who support him.
I’ve always said I would never blog, but you’re going to make me start one of my own these days. Well probably not. I don’t think I can find time amidst my capitalistic endeavors.
Written in love… 10th
Sounds like somebody missed the entire premise of the Nightline show (if you dig deep down there may be one in there somewhere? Maybe? Well probably not). But I don’t think it was geared towards women who aren’t trying to find a man. Its for women who are actively looking for a man, but can’t find one.
Also like to note, I don’t think men respect Steve Harvey as a relationship expert. But women do. They bought his book. Including my own family (to my objection). If you have a problem with it, maybe you should direct your comments towards those women who support him.
I’ve always said I would never blog, but you’re going to make me start one of my own these days. Well probably not. I don’t think I can find time amidst my capitalistic endeavors.
Written in love… 10th
@Jae,
I understand that black women are complicit in this whole discussion about not being able to fine a man. For most unjust systems like capitalism and patriarchy to work the oppressed must be complicit. However, the point of my post dear friend is to talk about how: (1) popular culture is obsessed with painting black women as desperate lonely unmarried women who can’t get a man to marry her even though I would put money on it every single black woman is helping/loving/sacrificing for some male entity in their lives; and how (2) there is a political project behind the constant images, movies, and news reports about black women independence/success and not being married. This is the point of my post.
No argument here, yes, you are all about the money old friend even though I know you are capable of caring about the world even if it’s only young black men. (smile)
But, thank you for leaving a comment.
@Jae,
I understand that black women are complicit in this whole discussion about not being able to fine a man. For most unjust systems like capitalism and patriarchy to work the oppressed must be complicit. However, the point of my post dear friend is to talk about how: (1) popular culture is obsessed with painting black women as desperate lonely unmarried women who can’t get a man to marry her even though I would put money on it every single black woman is helping/loving/sacrificing for some male entity in their lives; and how (2) there is a political project behind the constant images, movies, and news reports about black women independence/success and not being married. This is the point of my post.
No argument here, yes, you are all about the money old friend even though I know you are capable of caring about the world even if it’s only young black men. (smile)
But, thank you for leaving a comment.
I think both the points you make can be summed up by: money. I really don’t think popular culture is obsessed with the negative visions of women so much as women are. In my experiences, men aren’t (largely) watching Tyler Perry, reading Steve Harvey or listening to Mary J Blige. So as long as women continue to spend their hard earned money on these, then people will continue to make em. As long as their is a market there will ALWAYS be a product. No way around it. Its like how I feel about music, I dislike the majority of music on the airwaves today. But my generation has mortgages and carnotes to pay, and our disposable income is more likely to spent on vacations and home upgrades. So we’re not buying CD’s. Therefore music isn’t geared towards me anymore. And I’m stuck with Nikki Minaji (ha ha) and Gucci Mane. I don’t like it, but I get it. It is what it is. We’re a nation of consumers, unfortunately. But with that consumption comes power. If we don’t spend the money then eventually it goes away.
And yes I do want to save the little black boys (lol), because if I can help them grow up to be better men and fathers, then they grow up and raise great future boys and girls of their own. And that makes us all better off.
I think both the points you make can be summed up by: money. I really don’t think popular culture is obsessed with the negative visions of women so much as women are. In my experiences, men aren’t (largely) watching Tyler Perry, reading Steve Harvey or listening to Mary J Blige. So as long as women continue to spend their hard earned money on these, then people will continue to make em. As long as their is a market there will ALWAYS be a product. No way around it. Its like how I feel about music, I dislike the majority of music on the airwaves today. But my generation has mortgages and carnotes to pay, and our disposable income is more likely to spent on vacations and home upgrades. So we’re not buying CD’s. Therefore music isn’t geared towards me anymore. And I’m stuck with Nikki Minaji (ha ha) and Gucci Mane. I don’t like it, but I get it. It is what it is. We’re a nation of consumers, unfortunately. But with that consumption comes power. If we don’t spend the money then eventually it goes away.
And yes I do want to save the little black boys (lol), because if I can help them grow up to be better men and fathers, then they grow up and raise great future boys and girls of their own. And that makes us all better off.
right on. thanks for continuing to lift the veil on this!
i’m doing a weekly series on this, highlighting the voices of various sistas who are of a “different mind” on this. i’d love to link to your piece as well.
keep fighting the good fight.
peace.
right on. thanks for continuing to lift the veil on this!
i’m doing a weekly series on this, highlighting the voices of various sistas who are of a “different mind” on this. i’d love to link to your piece as well.
keep fighting the good fight.
peace.
@Omi,
Yes, please feel free to link to the blog. Thank you!
@Omi,
Yes, please feel free to link to the blog. Thank you!
Fallon,
You betta say it, Girl! I had to say, Yes, Amen, out loud at my own damn house, by my happily single self!!!!! Mental masturbation–thank you for putting that into words. I know so many brothers who love to make smart, feminist women their friends, but have no interest in building a life with us. It’s black male privilege at its worst. And that line about being proud to say you are the husband of said feminist woman–I totally said the other day to one of my homegirls, that my ideal partner would be someone who when introducing me might say, “I’m proud to be her man.” You hit the nail on the head over and over again here. Props, sister! Keep it coming!
Fallon,
You betta say it, Girl! I had to say, Yes, Amen, out loud at my own damn house, by my happily single self!!!!! Mental masturbation–thank you for putting that into words. I know so many brothers who love to make smart, feminist women their friends, but have no interest in building a life with us. It’s black male privilege at its worst. And that line about being proud to say you are the husband of said feminist woman–I totally said the other day to one of my homegirls, that my ideal partner would be someone who when introducing me might say, “I’m proud to be her man.” You hit the nail on the head over and over again here. Props, sister! Keep it coming!
YES!
I thoroughly enjoyed this blog, sis- you really were serving! It’s strange because I am a dirty south queer and so I don’t necessarily even date cisgender men often, but the HYSTERIA of some hetero sistas i’ve witnessed is really alarming. And I honestly feel like alot of mainstream black men are definitely profiting from the black male shortage/”black men have it harder than black women” mythologies. bigtime. sistas are putting up with ALOT of abusive, harmful, and negligent behavior just to keep a black man (i feel PARTICULARLY sympathetic for sistas who only date cisgendered black men). ANd don’t partner with someone white- OH NO! How DARE you make a decision what to do with the black man’s property (aka your own sacred body and mind)?! Who the hell do you think you are?
IT IS SO CLEAR- black men are NOT acknowledging their black male privilege- particularly the way that it operates within the black community, creating an atmosphere where black women are convincing themselves that black men have it harder (how many times have i heard this shit) while doing ALL THE GOTDAMN WORK.
It’s something i’ve been thinking about ALOT lately.
right now, i’m visiting my sister in long island, and DAMN. There’s a group on her campus called, “excuse me my beautiful black sister, but could you tap that white girl sitting next to you?”. No shit.
I agree with you sis- i’ve noticed it myself that there is a collusion at the instutional and community levels to deny black women’s contributions and keep them “good and faithful servants”. It’s so deep, too, because it took going to college and studying women’s studies that i even knew ANY substantial black women’s history. even the miniscule amount of black history I got in school was all about black men. And then you have the black church which is SO POWERFUL in our communities, where these ideas and dynamics are often unfortunately reinforced while black women run the whole damn operation(not even secretly seeing how in most churches black women are the majority of regular members)!
I’ve been personally told by black men reasons why they choose not to date black women (while on first and, fa sho LAST, dates with the dummy) and almost all of the reasons have been incredibly cruel and based in humiliating white supremacist stereotypes and black male insecurity and fear.
it’s time for black men to realize that, yes, they experience racism, but that they also use their black male privilege in the black community at the cost of black women’s self-determination, safety, and liberation.
I could go on for days, but I really really really do appreciate you steppin out with this blog because I feel the burn as a queer woman.
much love!
YES!
I thoroughly enjoyed this blog, sis- you really were serving! It’s strange because I am a dirty south queer and so I don’t necessarily even date cisgender men often, but the HYSTERIA of some hetero sistas i’ve witnessed is really alarming. And I honestly feel like alot of mainstream black men are definitely profiting from the black male shortage/”black men have it harder than black women” mythologies. bigtime. sistas are putting up with ALOT of abusive, harmful, and negligent behavior just to keep a black man (i feel PARTICULARLY sympathetic for sistas who only date cisgendered black men). ANd don’t partner with someone white- OH NO! How DARE you make a decision what to do with the black man’s property (aka your own sacred body and mind)?! Who the hell do you think you are?
IT IS SO CLEAR- black men are NOT acknowledging their black male privilege- particularly the way that it operates within the black community, creating an atmosphere where black women are convincing themselves that black men have it harder (how many times have i heard this shit) while doing ALL THE GOTDAMN WORK.
It’s something i’ve been thinking about ALOT lately.
right now, i’m visiting my sister in long island, and DAMN. There’s a group on her campus called, “excuse me my beautiful black sister, but could you tap that white girl sitting next to you?”. No shit.
I agree with you sis- i’ve noticed it myself that there is a collusion at the instutional and community levels to deny black women’s contributions and keep them “good and faithful servants”. It’s so deep, too, because it took going to college and studying women’s studies that i even knew ANY substantial black women’s history. even the miniscule amount of black history I got in school was all about black men. And then you have the black church which is SO POWERFUL in our communities, where these ideas and dynamics are often unfortunately reinforced while black women run the whole damn operation(not even secretly seeing how in most churches black women are the majority of regular members)!
I’ve been personally told by black men reasons why they choose not to date black women (while on first and, fa sho LAST, dates with the dummy) and almost all of the reasons have been incredibly cruel and based in humiliating white supremacist stereotypes and black male insecurity and fear.
it’s time for black men to realize that, yes, they experience racism, but that they also use their black male privilege in the black community at the cost of black women’s self-determination, safety, and liberation.
I could go on for days, but I really really really do appreciate you steppin out with this blog because I feel the burn as a queer woman.
much love!
@Jae,
I agree that there is money to be made off of damaged and disempowered black women. Just look at Tyler Perry and even some scholars. However, where I differ with you old friend is the idea that if there was no market for such images and stories then the market would cease to exist. Perhaps, it would cease in the sense of the type of books and movies that are currently being created, but it would not cease because sexism is systemic and systemic oppressions take more than changing consumption habits. It takes changing both men’s and women’s internalized notions about black women’s femininity, politics of respectability, and whole bunch of other things. And yeah right I know you secretly love Nicki Minaj because of the Usher song and I know you do love Gucci Mane, don’t front on here.
And I happy that you work with young men because you are a good role model for them even though you’re King Capitalist . . . (smile).
@Jae,
I agree that there is money to be made off of damaged and disempowered black women. Just look at Tyler Perry and even some scholars. However, where I differ with you old friend is the idea that if there was no market for such images and stories then the market would cease to exist. Perhaps, it would cease in the sense of the type of books and movies that are currently being created, but it would not cease because sexism is systemic and systemic oppressions take more than changing consumption habits. It takes changing both men’s and women’s internalized notions about black women’s femininity, politics of respectability, and whole bunch of other things. And yeah right I know you secretly love Nicki Minaj because of the Usher song and I know you do love Gucci Mane, don’t front on here.
And I happy that you work with young men because you are a good role model for them even though you’re King Capitalist . . . (smile).
@Crunktastic,
Yes, I hope to write a full blog about Black men’s Mental Masturbation. Thank sis! I luv Crunk feminist Collective.
@Alexsarah,
Well, said and will respond more thoroughly tonight!!!
@Crunktastic,
Yes, I hope to write a full blog about Black men’s Mental Masturbation. Thank sis! I luv Crunk feminist Collective.
@Alexsarah,
Well, said and will respond more thoroughly tonight!!!
As a Black male, I agree. Most of my Black male friends are looking for that “side kick” Black woman. The sister who re-enforces his “manhood”…a proponent of patriarchy. In fact, I can’t think of one heterosexual brother (outside of myself) who does not want that to some extent. Many women I meet are looking for the same, but often to a lesser extent. It is that difference in their acceptance patriarchy that creates problems for them and thus Nightline specials and Steve “I’m an expert on the mind set of the (patriarchal) male species” Harvey books. Few choose to delve to the true root of the issue cough*American values*cough: patriarchy and Black folks’ inability to identify it and deconstruct it.
So ladies, I agree.
It’s funny. How I perceive many of the commenter to feel about single Black men, I feel about Black women. Ha. I like you…I’d rather be single than be with the typical or quasi-feminist.
About the viability of creating and sustaining an alternative to the Tyler Perry’s of the world, it’s possible. Maybe not on the same scale as TP, but it is possible.
As a Black male, I agree. Most of my Black male friends are looking for that “side kick” Black woman. The sister who re-enforces his “manhood”…a proponent of patriarchy. In fact, I can’t think of one heterosexual brother (outside of myself) who does not want that to some extent. Many women I meet are looking for the same, but often to a lesser extent. It is that difference in their acceptance patriarchy that creates problems for them and thus Nightline specials and Steve “I’m an expert on the mind set of the (patriarchal) male species” Harvey books. Few choose to delve to the true root of the issue cough*American values*cough: patriarchy and Black folks’ inability to identify it and deconstruct it.
So ladies, I agree.
It’s funny. How I perceive many of the commenter to feel about single Black men, I feel about Black women. Ha. I like you…I’d rather be single than be with the typical or quasi-feminist.
About the viability of creating and sustaining an alternative to the Tyler Perry’s of the world, it’s possible. Maybe not on the same scale as TP, but it is possible.
Thanks for your comment. Most men who have commented have disavowed the general premise of my blog which is fine, I expect such reactions.
But, you know what I am becoming more interested in is how we teach boys these lessons. Mind you, at one point I thought my attention should be on girls and still feel that way, but I think there must be others who work with boys so that there is an alternative world.
I just finish reading a feminist science fiction book entitled, The Shore of Women by Pamela Sargent. It was written in the early 80s. Well, the book tells the story of what it means for women and men to live in different places primarily because men were responsible for killing the earth by war and greed. So, after centuries have passed two civilizations emerge where men are beholding to women because they see them as the goddess. Mind you the women have manufactured the goddess religion to keep me at bay and punish them for destroying the world many centuries ago. However, what you find is that the religion they create enslaves men as well as themselves. It keeps both groups from growing to see that men can learn caring/nurturing and that women can embody the same evils as men in wanting to control them. So it says something about the fluidity of gender and the power of engaging/learning and being critical about how we see the “other.” So, there is a need to teach both boys and girls about gender and sexism.
Thanks for your comment. Most men who have commented have disavowed the general premise of my blog which is fine, I expect such reactions.
But, you know what I am becoming more interested in is how we teach boys these lessons. Mind you, at one point I thought my attention should be on girls and still feel that way, but I think there must be others who work with boys so that there is an alternative world.
I just finish reading a feminist science fiction book entitled, The Shore of Women by Pamela Sargent. It was written in the early 80s. Well, the book tells the story of what it means for women and men to live in different places primarily because men were responsible for killing the earth by war and greed. So, after centuries have passed two civilizations emerge where men are beholding to women because they see them as the goddess. Mind you the women have manufactured the goddess religion to keep me at bay and punish them for destroying the world many centuries ago. However, what you find is that the religion they create enslaves men as well as themselves. It keeps both groups from growing to see that men can learn caring/nurturing and that women can embody the same evils as men in wanting to control them. So it says something about the fluidity of gender and the power of engaging/learning and being critical about how we see the “other.” So, there is a need to teach both boys and girls about gender and sexism.
So when are we gone stop blaming each other and actually start working TOGETHER cause for everything you just said in your blog i have a legitimate counter argument but if we argue all day— at the end of the day we still gone have the same problems….in order for anything to start changing it going to have to start with self…the person in the mirror is most responsible for our problems…male or female.
So when are we gone stop blaming each other and actually start working TOGETHER cause for everything you just said in your blog i have a legitimate counter argument but if we argue all day— at the end of the day we still gone have the same problems….in order for anything to start changing it going to have to start with self…the person in the mirror is most responsible for our problems…male or female.
Fallon,
Girl. You inspired me.
I wrote Musing on Black Women and Steve Harvey.
http://bit.ly/d7gt7S
I was moved by three things.
First, the fact that you call attention to the fact that this is a group of Black men talking about Black women dating.
Second, you connect what is happening to a broader discipline and punish regime, “Global women you better shut the fuck up and mind your manners or else you gone be as bad off as Black women.” Word to Foucault.
Thirdly, you mentioned the importance of education. What would happen instead of focusing on who some Black women are fucking or not fucking, if the attention was directing on helping Black men get what they need in order to be become reflecting, Loving human beings.
I have been deep in Race and Conquest this semester, and your post has me thinking about what happens to Black women with the fragility of the US Democracy makes itself known.
US democracy contracts, and we get regulated. #Ummmp. #Ummmhmm.
~Renina
Fallon,
Girl. You inspired me.
I wrote Musing on Black Women and Steve Harvey.
http://bit.ly/d7gt7S
I was moved by three things.
First, the fact that you call attention to the fact that this is a group of Black men talking about Black women dating.
Second, you connect what is happening to a broader discipline and punish regime, “Global women you better shut the fuck up and mind your manners or else you gone be as bad off as Black women.” Word to Foucault.
Thirdly, you mentioned the importance of education. What would happen instead of focusing on who some Black women are fucking or not fucking, if the attention was directing on helping Black men get what they need in order to be become reflecting, Loving human beings.
I have been deep in Race and Conquest this semester, and your post has me thinking about what happens to Black women with the fragility of the US Democracy makes itself known.
US democracy contracts, and we get regulated. #Ummmp. #Ummmhmm.
~Renina
Only thing I have to say is, and I honestly did not read this Blog, “If you are Black and are ‘not’ married and you are just breeding young Black boys to fill up the prison cells in return for welfare education or to get back at your babby’s daddy, shame on you”. There is a reason that you are “single” and always go running Terry MacMillian-style to the white man. God can not Bless you nor our race, people. Get married and help your race. We don’t care if they Black, white, Asian, or illegal immigrant. Stop breed our sons for the white man prison’s. That’s all that I pray, single black female. A “woman” knows better.
Only thing I have to say is, and I honestly did not read this Blog, “If you are Black and are ‘not’ married and you are just breeding young Black boys to fill up the prison cells in return for welfare education or to get back at your babby’s daddy, shame on you”. There is a reason that you are “single” and always go running Terry MacMillian-style to the white man. God can not Bless you nor our race, people. Get married and help your race. We don’t care if they Black, white, Asian, or illegal immigrant. Stop breed our sons for the white man prison’s. That’s all that I pray, single black female. A “woman” knows better.
@Renina,
I thought your analysis was so on point. Moya sent me your blog yesterday. Wow, I think doing an oral history of black women’s sexuality/life choices would be cool. Also, your questions capture what I hoped to convey in the post:
The Nightline meme as punishment for not being feminine enough in the throws of rabid global capitalism?
Why are Black men talking about Black women’s dating habits?
Rather than be up in our dating lives, why not write about creating healthy Black men?
Also, I think why some black hetero feminist do not write about their relationships with black men is because they are afraid of what non-hetero black feminist will think that they sleep (literally and metaphorically) with the oppressor and rather enjoy it on occasion.
I am going to send you email, we should talk.
@Robert,
Clearly, you are not worth my analytical thoughts.
@Renina,
I thought your analysis was so on point. Moya sent me your blog yesterday. Wow, I think doing an oral history of black women’s sexuality/life choices would be cool. Also, your questions capture what I hoped to convey in the post:
The Nightline meme as punishment for not being feminine enough in the throws of rabid global capitalism?
Why are Black men talking about Black women’s dating habits?
Rather than be up in our dating lives, why not write about creating healthy Black men?
Also, I think why some black hetero feminist do not write about their relationships with black men is because they are afraid of what non-hetero black feminist will think that they sleep (literally and metaphorically) with the oppressor and rather enjoy it on occasion.
I am going to send you email, we should talk.
@Robert,
Clearly, you are not worth my analytical thoughts.
hey, “Black Male Privilege” doesn’t seem to take black men further up life’s ladder so I fail to see the privilege of it. We’re both figuratively at the bottom of the pecking order of America so whats the beef again?
Overall, this post seems angry and bitter, you make it seem like black men are the enemy, were not. I happened upon this blog via MDot, and I fail how this is supposed to help since black men aren’t going to read it (generally) like we don’t listen to Steve Harvey (when hes not telling jokes) or Tyler Perry at all. Its like a crowd of black women talking themselves into a fluster. Start this convo with a man, maybe you’ll both learn something
hey, “Black Male Privilege” doesn’t seem to take black men further up life’s ladder so I fail to see the privilege of it. We’re both figuratively at the bottom of the pecking order of America so whats the beef again?
Overall, this post seems angry and bitter, you make it seem like black men are the enemy, were not. I happened upon this blog via MDot, and I fail how this is supposed to help since black men aren’t going to read it (generally) like we don’t listen to Steve Harvey (when hes not telling jokes) or Tyler Perry at all. Its like a crowd of black women talking themselves into a fluster. Start this convo with a man, maybe you’ll both learn something
@Enig,
Usually, I do not engage in though provoking conversation with people irrespective of gender who I find to be asinine. However, I will make an exception for you. If you find my post to be a cruel, “angry and bitter” indictment against black men, clearly you have misread my post. Once again, my post was to highlight how black men are a part of the problem, not the pen-ultimate problem, but still a portion of it when it comes to how they treat black women.
Yes, black women internalize their oppression, but there is something unhealthy and dysfunctional about black male privilege whereby black men choose black women they can abuse, oppress, control, ignore, over work, overlook, impregnate and leave, emotional manipulate, mentally masturbate, and/or silence simply because they are born with a third arm. Yes, both we both are at the bottom, but how gender, race, class, and sexuality intersect makes both of our oppressions different.
Also, other men have made the same comments that they do not listen to Tyler Perry and Steve Harvey and one even mentioned he disagreed with them, but yet not one brother on this blog has publicly denounced them, wrote the, or confronted them about how they negatively paint black women in their movies and books. You may not listen to the Tyler Perrys and Steve Harveys of the world, but you also along with women condone their foolishness by your silence and inaction.
Perhaps, if you continue to visit my blog and read my black feminist posts, maybe (but that’s a big maybe) you will learn something too, my brother.
@Enig,
Usually, I do not engage in though provoking conversation with people irrespective of gender who I find to be asinine. However, I will make an exception for you. If you find my post to be a cruel, “angry and bitter” indictment against black men, clearly you have misread my post. Once again, my post was to highlight how black men are a part of the problem, not the pen-ultimate problem, but still a portion of it when it comes to how they treat black women.
Yes, black women internalize their oppression, but there is something unhealthy and dysfunctional about black male privilege whereby black men choose black women they can abuse, oppress, control, ignore, over work, overlook, impregnate and leave, emotional manipulate, mentally masturbate, and/or silence simply because they are born with a third arm. Yes, both we both are at the bottom, but how gender, race, class, and sexuality intersect makes both of our oppressions different.
Also, other men have made the same comments that they do not listen to Tyler Perry and Steve Harvey and one even mentioned he disagreed with them, but yet not one brother on this blog has publicly denounced them, wrote the, or confronted them about how they negatively paint black women in their movies and books. You may not listen to the Tyler Perrys and Steve Harveys of the world, but you also along with women condone their foolishness by your silence and inaction.
Perhaps, if you continue to visit my blog and read my black feminist posts, maybe (but that’s a big maybe) you will learn something too, my brother.
Dear Fallon,
I would like to commend your disclaimer about your post being a rant. You appear to excel in this genre. Upon my first reading, I found your post to be disdainful, bitter, and destructive, reflective of a viewpoint that was narrow, autobiographical, and irresponsible. I was even offended at the notion that I, a black male, would bone everything that moves. I conjectured that perhaps this was a particularly bitter remark motivated by stereotype, deep insecurity, and personal rejection.
I was shocked that such an ostensibly educated woman could have such callous (and cavalier!) disregard for the homeless. I was able to shrug it away when considering the social position of the speaker. As a black male, I know well how easy it is to focus on my own racial oppression while ignoring my black male privilege. Still, it was initially confounding that someone so conscious of the ways in which she was being oppressed could be so blatantly unaware of the ways in which her own attitude and privilege make her an oppressor.
HOWEVER, upon reflection, I have seen the error of my ways.
Indeed, you have opened my eyes. Indeed, though I had never heard the argument before, I realized that I had internalized a certain bitterness with regard to the black women, especially the single mothers, who had, by NOT staying home and raising me and my miscreant friends, stolen my employment opportunities, and resigned me to a life of crime, rampant fertilization, and tragic death. Here I was trying to have meaningful conversations with women – intellectual masturbation, as termed here – when all you really wanted was a few public compliments and a receipt from my psychotherapist.
I would like to apologize for robbing you of your agency. I’m sorry for those evil black men who, against your will, entered into a relationship with you that forced you shut up, stay at home, raise the children, endure stress, abuse, violence, and to suffer. It is clearly my fault, and I am sorry. I know it must have been hard, especially since you had no choice in the matter. To that end, I pledge to you that I will seek you out, find you, and shower you with love, affirmation, laughter, and joy. I will subordinate myself in every way to your ideology and instruction, and focus exclusively on remembering moments with you (which, I imagine, given your disdain for conversation will be somewhat like a silent film). While your insecurity, hostility, and deep resentment may drive away other men, I find it incredibly endearing. I will be there for you always.
And by always, of course, I mean for 15 minutes.
Sincerely yours,
The Ambassador of All Things Heterosexual, Black, and Male.
Dear Fallon,
I would like to commend your disclaimer about your post being a rant. You appear to excel in this genre. Upon my first reading, I found your post to be disdainful, bitter, and destructive, reflective of a viewpoint that was narrow, autobiographical, and irresponsible. I was even offended at the notion that I, a black male, would bone everything that moves. I conjectured that perhaps this was a particularly bitter remark motivated by stereotype, deep insecurity, and personal rejection.
I was shocked that such an ostensibly educated woman could have such callous (and cavalier!) disregard for the homeless. I was able to shrug it away when considering the social position of the speaker. As a black male, I know well how easy it is to focus on my own racial oppression while ignoring my black male privilege. Still, it was initially confounding that someone so conscious of the ways in which she was being oppressed could be so blatantly unaware of the ways in which her own attitude and privilege make her an oppressor.
HOWEVER, upon reflection, I have seen the error of my ways.
Indeed, you have opened my eyes. Indeed, though I had never heard the argument before, I realized that I had internalized a certain bitterness with regard to the black women, especially the single mothers, who had, by NOT staying home and raising me and my miscreant friends, stolen my employment opportunities, and resigned me to a life of crime, rampant fertilization, and tragic death. Here I was trying to have meaningful conversations with women – intellectual masturbation, as termed here – when all you really wanted was a few public compliments and a receipt from my psychotherapist.
I would like to apologize for robbing you of your agency. I’m sorry for those evil black men who, against your will, entered into a relationship with you that forced you shut up, stay at home, raise the children, endure stress, abuse, violence, and to suffer. It is clearly my fault, and I am sorry. I know it must have been hard, especially since you had no choice in the matter. To that end, I pledge to you that I will seek you out, find you, and shower you with love, affirmation, laughter, and joy. I will subordinate myself in every way to your ideology and instruction, and focus exclusively on remembering moments with you (which, I imagine, given your disdain for conversation will be somewhat like a silent film). While your insecurity, hostility, and deep resentment may drive away other men, I find it incredibly endearing. I will be there for you always.
And by always, of course, I mean for 15 minutes.
Sincerely yours,
The Ambassador of All Things Heterosexual, Black, and Male.
@AmbassadorBlackMan,
brotha you are a prophet!!!! Katt says it too!
@AmbassadorBlackMan,
brotha you are a prophet!!!! Katt says it too!
ashe AmbassadorBlackMan ashe!!
ashe AmbassadorBlackMan ashe!!
I appreciate your blog and all of the comments. Each of us have valid points, but as a black woman who “happens” to be married although I do not think I would feel any differently if I was single-I must say that it’s time for “both” black men and women to step it up. However; as a female who has never had a problem finding or keeping a man (not saying this with any type of attitude or head swing) while observing many black women who didn’t seem to know how-I am always noticing differences between those who can find and keep a man/men and those of us who can’t. A few of those differences are “very” simple changes that can easily be made without sacrificing who we are as women or losing any of our self respect or dignity in the process. I will first start by saying that there is absolutely nothing wrong with being educated, successful, financially fit, etc. These things are important and necessary for us to move foward and to get our families where we need to be. BUT Ladies WE HAVE the POWER! It goes back to Eve nudging Adam to eat the apple and Delilah convincing Samson to cut his hair. I mean, really. Men are not women. They do not sit and think about us all day. They are working hard and trying to make things happen. We are wired a little differently with our romantic ideologies and “happily ever after” dreams that we are taught from childhood. Men are taught not to cry, but to be strong from children. For these simple reasons, we cannot expect a man to behave or think the way that “we” would. We must respect one another’s differences and praise our individual strengths. Sometimes men need space and time to figure things out. When we nag, they run away. When we give them a comfortable environment to return to without the fear of being “chastised or verbally beaten down” they run to us. We have the power to make a man do whatever we want, including committing to a relationship/marriage, but the use of force, mind games, poutting and getting mad when he doesn’t do what you want when we want is not the answer. I find that by keeping it light and sweet has gotten me very far with the men that I have been in relationships with. Now if a man is a low down dirty dog, then I have no business trying to reform him, but if I see that a man is sensitive & genuine and deserving of my time and interest because he is choosing me as well as giving me time and attention, I do not immediately place demands on his time or attention (I have always had my own life and goals to attend to) it was no problem to get him to do what I wanted in the long run. It’s about kindness, it’s about love, it’s about being the one thing that he can come home to and depend on as a part of his sanctuary from the outside world. We all need that resting place of peace….When a man has that, nothing will keep him away from us and nothing will keep him from doing what he has to do to maintain that. Boys run from woman to woman and chase skirts. Real Men chase money and security and want “THE” ultimate woman they can call their own to be their best friend, their girlfriend, their wife, their mother, their freak in the bedroom (lol), their nurse, their everything. Everything is right with that. When he has that, he in turn will be our cousin, our best friend, our sex god, our dad, etc. It’s give and take. Give Ladies. Give LOVE and it will be returned to you! I promise!
I appreciate your blog and all of the comments. Each of us have valid points, but as a black woman who “happens” to be married although I do not think I would feel any differently if I was single-I must say that it’s time for “both” black men and women to step it up. However; as a female who has never had a problem finding or keeping a man (not saying this with any type of attitude or head swing) while observing many black women who didn’t seem to know how-I am always noticing differences between those who can find and keep a man/men and those of us who can’t. A few of those differences are “very” simple changes that can easily be made without sacrificing who we are as women or losing any of our self respect or dignity in the process. I will first start by saying that there is absolutely nothing wrong with being educated, successful, financially fit, etc. These things are important and necessary for us to move foward and to get our families where we need to be. BUT Ladies WE HAVE the POWER! It goes back to Eve nudging Adam to eat the apple and Delilah convincing Samson to cut his hair. I mean, really. Men are not women. They do not sit and think about us all day. They are working hard and trying to make things happen. We are wired a little differently with our romantic ideologies and “happily ever after” dreams that we are taught from childhood. Men are taught not to cry, but to be strong from children. For these simple reasons, we cannot expect a man to behave or think the way that “we” would. We must respect one another’s differences and praise our individual strengths. Sometimes men need space and time to figure things out. When we nag, they run away. When we give them a comfortable environment to return to without the fear of being “chastised or verbally beaten down” they run to us. We have the power to make a man do whatever we want, including committing to a relationship/marriage, but the use of force, mind games, poutting and getting mad when he doesn’t do what you want when we want is not the answer. I find that by keeping it light and sweet has gotten me very far with the men that I have been in relationships with. Now if a man is a low down dirty dog, then I have no business trying to reform him, but if I see that a man is sensitive & genuine and deserving of my time and interest because he is choosing me as well as giving me time and attention, I do not immediately place demands on his time or attention (I have always had my own life and goals to attend to) it was no problem to get him to do what I wanted in the long run. It’s about kindness, it’s about love, it’s about being the one thing that he can come home to and depend on as a part of his sanctuary from the outside world. We all need that resting place of peace….When a man has that, nothing will keep him away from us and nothing will keep him from doing what he has to do to maintain that. Boys run from woman to woman and chase skirts. Real Men chase money and security and want “THE” ultimate woman they can call their own to be their best friend, their girlfriend, their wife, their mother, their freak in the bedroom (lol), their nurse, their everything. Everything is right with that. When he has that, he in turn will be our cousin, our best friend, our sex god, our dad, etc. It’s give and take. Give Ladies. Give LOVE and it will be returned to you! I promise!
So Fallon,
I am going to assume the absence of a response to Ambassadorblackman is a sign that he has effectively silenced your childish tantrum.
So Fallon,
I am going to assume the absence of a response to Ambassadorblackman is a sign that he has effectively silenced your childish tantrum.
thanks for your blog, fallon! you speak to alot of the pain, frustration, and down right aggravation of black women under siege within/outside of our various communities. even though it seems like there are ALOT of people who either cannot or refuse to understand what you were trying to accomplish with this piece, their responses, however disappointing, misguided, vicious, defensive, hostile, and passive aggressively well-intentioned reveal just a little piece of how much an open dialog is needed and how much the communication within our communities is really suffering, in part, as a result of our ignorance of history, lack of processes to unpack our collective trauma, and unwillingness to acknowledge and educate ourselves about our privilege even at the price of our own and others’ humanity. keep doin’ your thing, grrl!
thanks for your blog, fallon! you speak to alot of the pain, frustration, and down right aggravation of black women under siege within/outside of our various communities. even though it seems like there are ALOT of people who either cannot or refuse to understand what you were trying to accomplish with this piece, their responses, however disappointing, misguided, vicious, defensive, hostile, and passive aggressively well-intentioned reveal just a little piece of how much an open dialog is needed and how much the communication within our communities is really suffering, in part, as a result of our ignorance of history, lack of processes to unpack our collective trauma, and unwillingness to acknowledge and educate ourselves about our privilege even at the price of our own and others’ humanity. keep doin’ your thing, grrl!
Hi Admin, when viewing your site i got some sort of codes all over the page, i assume it’s some form of popups ads. But good site anyhow Peace!
Hi Admin, when viewing your site i got some sort of codes all over the page, i assume it’s some form of popups ads. But good site anyhow Peace!
We know who she’s “financed” by.
We know who she’s “financed” by.
I was going to post something but Ambassador Blackman nailed every point and Pink Peach put the icing on the cake.
I was going to post something but Ambassador Blackman nailed every point and Pink Peach put the icing on the cake.
OMG! Did you know, that Frankenstein used to have his nails extracted?
OMG! Did you know, that Frankenstein used to have his nails extracted?
I’m a single mother and as you know as a single mother if you can get a night out…it’s almost a miracle…well….I was invited by this young mand to see his friends perform…as I sat at his table his friend came over to me and asked me “Do You Like Sex”…and then quickly came to sit next to me asking me ” Are those stockings you have on, while rubbing my legs…..before I can hit him he ran somewhere else…..not this is what I’m saying how disrespectful Black men have become….he did not know me…did not know my name nor even introduce him self to me…….if I was not a guest….I would have said some very harse words to him…but I remine with class…….and I bet because I did not accept his low-class advances….I bet I was talked about….you see…a lot of BM have lost their respect and morals no matter how they have obtained success…..they have been around WW and AW so much they do not know how to be respectful….they can treat other women any kind of way…but when a classy BW come around they want to do the same to her….and when she opposes…he punish her for unacepted advances…..
I’m a single mother and as you know as a single mother if you can get a night out…it’s almost a miracle…well….I was invited by this young mand to see his friends perform…as I sat at his table his friend came over to me and asked me “Do You Like Sex”…and then quickly came to sit next to me asking me ” Are those stockings you have on, while rubbing my legs…..before I can hit him he ran somewhere else…..not this is what I’m saying how disrespectful Black men have become….he did not know me…did not know my name nor even introduce him self to me…….if I was not a guest….I would have said some very harse words to him…but I remine with class…….and I bet because I did not accept his low-class advances….I bet I was talked about….you see…a lot of BM have lost their respect and morals no matter how they have obtained success…..they have been around WW and AW so much they do not know how to be respectful….they can treat other women any kind of way…but when a classy BW come around they want to do the same to her….and when she opposes…he punish her for unacepted advances…..
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Thank you Pink Peach!
I can see why you have success in your relationship because you understand and respect the natural differences of a man.
Thank you Pink Peach!
I can see why you have success in your relationship because you understand and respect the natural differences of a man.